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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 7, 2010 0:35:05 GMT -8
Betty has always been reluctant to join D.S. R&D because of her rotten affliction but she still wants to make a positive impact. With this in mind I would like to form a new Life Culting group who can hopefully be friends, nay even allied with D.S. R&D. I would call it Zombies for the Advancement of Living People, or ZALP for short.
The purpose of this post would be to 1) see if you guys would be interested in being friends with Zombies for the Advancement of Living People and 2) solicit advice on how to make potential life culters aware of this new group.
Thanks in advance
Bedlam Betty
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Post by SoloDogScout on Dec 7, 2010 15:36:34 GMT -8
Betty has always been reluctant to join D.S. R&D because of her rotten affliction but she still wants to make a positive impact. With this in mind I would like to form a new Life Culting group who can hopefully be friends, nay even allied with D.S. R&D. I would call it Zombies for the Advancement of Living People, or ZALP for short. The purpose of this post would be to 1) see if you guys would be interested in being friends with Zombies for the Advancement of Living People and 2) solicit advice on how to make potential life culters aware of this new group. Thanks in advance Bedlam Betty I think that's a great idea! I actually may have a perfect alt to join your group, if you are interested. Also, Skynet has been looking to find a reliable Life-Culting group to work with them, if ZALP wants to be part of a larger meta-group. Also, Betty, we have always considered you as being part of our group, since the time we first met you. Even if you don't wear the DS R&D tags, you are still an honorary member of the group, and we consider you a great asset.
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Post by Albert on Dec 7, 2010 20:06:12 GMT -8
Betty has always been reluctant to join D.S. R&D because of her rotten affliction but she still wants to make a positive impact. With this in mind I would like to form a new Life Culting group who can hopefully be friends, nay even allied with D.S. R&D. I would call it Zombies for the Advancement of Living People, or ZALP for short. The purpose of this post would be to 1) see if you guys would be interested in being friends with Zombies for the Advancement of Living People and 2) solicit advice on how to make potential life culters aware of this new group I think I can help with that Betty. When I originally envisioned the D.S. R&D, I had brain-rotted life-cultists in mind for a heavy role. I would have actually taken the Rot some time ago were it not for the difficulty posed by the Heathers. If you are interested ZALP can be a part of the D.S. R&D which would allow you to use this forum and it's current contacts for your purposes. That would plae the D.S. R&D back in its proper context as a scientific development and recon organization and allow ZALP to handle all of the life culting duties. You would not have to worry about leadership issues as I suggest and share data more than lead anyways. Give me some odds and ends to make into a product and a good zombie to test it on and I am happy. If you are interested, let me know and I will set you up with admin rights on the forum and help you handle the advertising. This would also allow easy swapping between members who wish to change rolls for a set period of time (on a personal note, it would allow me to participate as Albert). Finally, it would allow the group to be a primary branch off the main D.S. R&D wiki page over which you are in charge if you wish to be. This could be handy as our wiki page is established and gets a lot of hits. If you would rather arrange things as a completely separate group, I can only speak for myself but I would be happy to be allied with your new group and would hope that we could work closely together. Science and Life-culting do go together like ice-cream and waffles after all. ;D I have long been of the mind that the lack of a primarily life-culting group in Malton was a criminal oversight. I am glad to hear that you may be willing to run with it. Have you read my documentation on the subject? ( wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:A.schwan/life-culting) They might give you some good pointers no matter what you decide. Let me know what you decide and we can act accordingly.
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 7, 2010 20:22:24 GMT -8
Dr. Schwan, your generosity goes above and beyond what I was expecting, and I will gladly accept. I will send you a note so we can discuss this further without spamming the board.
More details to come as they eventuate.
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Post by Albert on Dec 8, 2010 21:03:05 GMT -8
I was playing around with a Logo that encompasses the spirit of the idea. How does this first draft strike you? The background is transparent so try to ignore the blue and picture it white like the wiki.
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 9, 2010 1:47:27 GMT -8
Ok, that is very, very cool!
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Post by belisarius17 on Dec 9, 2010 19:38:08 GMT -8
I would be interested in joining you with an alt.
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Post by Albert on Dec 10, 2010 19:14:34 GMT -8
wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Z.A.L.P. Z.A.L.P. on the wiki.! I have set up a wiki page for Z.A.L.P. that Betty will be filling in with all of the appropriate information. The outline is just a suggestion but seemed like a good place to start. Good luck and looking forward to working with you.
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Post by Jack's Mommy on Dec 11, 2010 7:54:05 GMT -8
wa ha ha! I love the wiki page!
HARMANZ AHM HRANS NAH BARG Z!NGZ
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It may seem hard to believe, but with only a little bit of restraint on both sides, zombies can be very helpful to humans and vice versa.
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Post by Albert on Dec 11, 2010 12:47:21 GMT -8
As the wiki page is currently set up, you indicate that this is philosophy rather than a group. I would suggest you indicate that it is both. The Feral Undead has a similar mission statement. That way, zombies who are looking to adopt a life-culting strategy will be able to use the tag, but also those interested in more cohesive/cooperative game play will know that they can get that here as well.
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Post by Albert on Dec 11, 2010 13:51:03 GMT -8
I have created a new forum skin for Z.A.L.P. (it is green and has the appropriate logo) To see it click on your name, click modify profile, under “account Preferences” find the “select skin” drop down, and change the information inside from “D.S.R&D” to “Z.A.L.P.” Finally, click modify account at the bottom. Enjoy the greenness. There is also an new grey option called "D.S.R&D (grey)" that you can choose if you have been having trouble with the standard blue.
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 11, 2010 14:36:24 GMT -8
fixed
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Post by SoloDogScout on Dec 11, 2010 17:42:19 GMT -8
Betty, fantastic job on the Wiki page!
Do you have any plans to move the group around to places where people may request Z.A.L.P.'s help? Or is the plan more to change one's tag while one is a zombie, but stay in the same suburb in which one would normally live? Or are you going to have a combination of both?
If you plan to have a mobile group, I have an alt to join such a group, as does Scouteric.
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Post by Ahlek on Dec 11, 2010 18:07:12 GMT -8
You might want to put your urbandead id on the page, so people can tell you apart from any impostors (and so friendly life-culters don't eat you).
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Post by Albert on Dec 11, 2010 18:16:56 GMT -8
You might want to put your urbandead id on the page, so people can tell you apart from any impostors (and so friendly life-culters don't eat you). Betty, if you like, I can set it as a link within the group box for you. Since you now have a wiki presence, you may want to look into putting some information on your user page and letting me help you create a signature.
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 11, 2010 19:42:42 GMT -8
Solo: I would like to have a place where people can request our assistance and I would post the requests on our board. If our group becomes big enough I would like to be part of a mobile strike force. However, this is not mandatory for involvement. For example if members of the Wulves wanted to switch over to ZALP when they are zombified and only defend Wyke, that is fine.
Ahlek and Albert: Good idea. I am new to the wiki thing so I'll wander over there and try to fiddle with my profile info, but I'm not really sure how to edit the group box. I was trying last night to edit it.
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Post by Albert on Dec 11, 2010 19:49:41 GMT -8
Your name on the group box is now a link. I linked "Bedlam" to where your user page will be once you put some information in there and "Betty" to your UD profile.
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 14, 2010 21:58:36 GMT -8
I've died, the wiki is up, so any of you who would like to join, just let me know
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Post by Albert on Dec 15, 2010 14:03:53 GMT -8
I've died, the wiki is up, so any of you who would like to join, just let me know Albert will join you in Wyke part-time when he dies, but once ZALP heads out of Wyke, I will join you officially with an ALT of mine. I have not decided which one yet.
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Post by SoloDogScout on Dec 15, 2010 14:07:49 GMT -8
I am interested in joining you, but my alt who wants to join cannot come to Wyke right now, because I have 1 alt close by, and another heading that way tomorrow. Also, I know that Scouteric has an alt who would like to join, though he will have similar issues. My alt is SoloDogZombieScouteric's alt is ulf hednar
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 15, 2010 17:52:14 GMT -8
Happy to leave Wyke for you guys. Do you know of any trouble spots, or should we just pick a red zone on the wiki and try to help out?
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Post by Albert on Dec 15, 2010 20:21:30 GMT -8
Happy to leave Wyke for you guys. Do you know of any trouble spots, or should we just pick a red zone on the wiki and try to help out? With a group like this, you may not want to be in a rush to leave Wyke. The rot revive and the presence of rotter's Relief has many people in this suburb who have brainrot and might be interested in joining if they are made aware of it. Those of us who cannot come to Wyke with zombie Alts can help you with survivor Alts for a time and list our zombie Alts as members to give you more credibility. We can even recruit in the other suburbs in preparation for meeting up with you. I would keep an eye on Wicksted if I were you. Once we get the rot revive functioning, I would try to recruit folks like nightfighta and iamnotaporpoise (though be warned he is rather erratic) who prefer to play a survivor's game despite their brainrot. There are plenty around, even some ex rotter's relief people who have tired of their dysfunctional barricade strategy. They are the most likely to be interested in the alternative you offer. A bit of spraypaint and some in game talk and you never know who you will dredge up. The Wulves may even be interested in helping you put the word out.
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Post by Albert on Dec 16, 2010 21:29:50 GMT -8
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Post by bedlambetty on Dec 17, 2010 3:50:10 GMT -8
I know they are also called Tasmanian wolves, but we call them Tasmanian tigers.
"Malton’s only organized life-cultist group, We are committed to" maybe change to "As Malton's [...] group, we ..."
Also I don't know if the font change was on purpose, just pointing it out.
Other than that, it is very nice. Thank you for putting so much work into this group. I hope our efforts are rewarded
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Post by amilius on Jan 5, 2011 21:52:12 GMT -8
Those of us who cannot come to Wyke with zombie Alts can help you with survivor Alts for a time and list our zombie Alts as members to give you more credibility. Hey All, BB you may want to consider developing a Zerging policy for ZALP and post it in a publicly accessible thread to help fend off criticism and harassment from other groups. Because of the way you're recruiting people (from current Allies) you could end up having players with alts in one group directly helping their own alts in another groups - which is zerging by most definitions and will probably cause you a lot of problems, from all sides. And zerging isn't cool...
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Post by Albert on Jan 6, 2011 14:39:28 GMT -8
BB you may want to consider developing a Zerging policy for ZALP and post it in a publicly accessible thread to help fend off criticism and harassment from other groups. This is a fair point but I think it may be better served as an addition to the ZALP wiki. The current section on fluid membership could be altered to clarify this point, stressing that--while a tag or group designation may change--ZALP members will only operate one character as part of any ZALP operation, and core ZALP members will not participate in ZALP operations with non-ZALP alts excepting when ZALP is working directly with that alt's group: in which case the core ZALP alt will not be participating in said operation.
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Post by amilius on Jan 6, 2011 21:37:16 GMT -8
Whoa, Albert - that made my head spin (and not in a good zombie way...) ;D Maybe I could work on that verbiage with BB.
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Post by bedlambetty on Jan 7, 2011 2:18:12 GMT -8
I'll translate from Albert into Betty
-So long as your group allows it, you may switch from your survivor tag to ZALP tag if you want to lifecult for a while -you may not have more than one alt in ZALP at any one time -you must keep one suburb between all alts at all times
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Post by Albert on Jan 7, 2011 13:00:22 GMT -8
I thought we might want to talk about tag uniformity. I notice that some people are using the full group name while others are using the acronym (with and without periods). We should come to a consensus on this if we want to interact with other groups. My vote goes for Z.A.L.P. as solo has it because it is hard to mess up and, if there ever become enough of us to appear on the group stats page, it will allow our listing there to automatically link to the group wiki. Thoughts?
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Post by amilius on Jan 7, 2011 15:49:54 GMT -8
I gotta agree with Albert - Z.A.L.P. is easier to use than the full name. Especially if you keep changing your tags between groups. @bb - thanks, that's easier to read
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